Okay so I had to buy these. I love joggers and needed a new color. Bought them in grey and blue. They are so soft. Great fit. I ordered a size small and for reference I'm 5'1 120lbs. They are so so soft, not a cheap fabric and breathable. Will definitely buy more in other colors! So happy with my purchase. The length is perfect for me and I can also Cuff them up once but I like the little bit of extra fabric around my calf.